Semantic Web is about Spreadsheet Data: A look to the future

... say you use it for a spreadsheet and you can't at the moment pull that data up into your spreadsheet. So the Semantic Web is about making that possible, but really is just completing the web vision. ... So the difficulty in industry is being the first mover. First person to put the data all into a standard language doesn't get so much benefit from it.

This is Herr Berners-Lee not in his still freshly minted blog but in a PIT (podcasting interview transcript) from the 4^thISWC (International Semantic Web Conference) recently. What a change since the first mover advantage when consultants where still able to sell feardriven managments into adopting technologies that made sellers rich and users lose money. Busy, busy, busy.

If you rather listen than read the audio thing is there

Want more teasing? Will people individually use Semantic Web? I think yes, some, I think it will be maybe more complicated than browsing the web ... it will be like using a spreadsheet instead of using a web processor. But I don't know what the interface will look like, I think there's a lot of competition on what's the best way of browsing all this data.

Will children do it? Yes, of course, they will do it. I hope that the interface, the human interface, for the Semantic Web will be simple, clear and easy to use, but if it is a bit difficult and complicated then children will probably do it first.

All bolds are my emphasis

St Stephen's Day = Boxing Day

And time it is for Little Gifts to Mankind from the Heart of Europe: Become the Real Broukal 2.13

Come on! Let's not always see the same raised fingers. It's never been easier. Here is an Animated Guided Tour¹ to blogging, fogging, podcasting and soon maybe vodcasting. Future Danielles and Alfreds, Henries, Billies and Dorothies² (a bit of a cheat), Roberts, Armins, Moritzes and Karls (for the extremely ambitious), it's never been easier to learn it! There ain't no excuse anymore. Even Tim's got a blog these days.

¹ Whatever various communicatons incumbents and have been tv prominents have paid and still pay me for helping their causes, cannot be disclosed for obvious reasons.

Explanation: I like to use traditionell markup like <sup> and the likes. As most browsers stop to handle lines and leadings correctly if you do so, it does become unnerving every once in while. I also like footnotes which seem to grow ever more unpopular (which is different from less popular) outside the academic world that i nevertheless am not part of.

Helpful: preRead-> SusiYin pointed me (key phrase: als wäre sie von einem psychotherapeutisch unterminierten blogsoziologen) to the Weblife Netiquette (key phrase: Die goldene Regel ist: Seien Sie tolerant.). Here too, one's gotta admit: "Greener becomes it simply not."

But: Helma->Antville->Twoday are taking large strides to undermine webinfrastructure in this country. Just wait until they really really go international.

twoday.tuwien.ac.at www.meinekleine.at www.weblife.at www.moday.at

... and elsewhere ...

Promotion Via ORF.at und ooe.ORF.at die Promotionsrede von Rene Mayerhofer, der auch Open Source macht. Sehr sehr nett. SRAI lebt!

Ellipse On Dec 23 I missed rollkoffermänner im excel-sabbat. Have not seen an ellipse of this quality in a long time.

remembering meme pebbles in the pool

this was shortly before slauti met kris for the first time in his life.

'Twas on the same day I met Brian Foote, the guy with reportedly the best joke/minute rate in the programming conferences world. As far as I know, Brian is the author of the 'xml is diet cobol' meme.

A while ago Tobi Schäfer remembered the Diet Cobol meme and asked a question as to its exact meaning of wether java or xml. Joey deVilla obviously likes the meme too () could not decide on what and incidently quoted Tobi's question alongside two other links of which:

Martin Fowler says that 'Java is ..'. Travis Grigg's says that 'XML is ...'.

Both heard Brian's talk at OOPSLA2005 and quote him, so one quote must be wrong.

It was 3 years ago (after I had met him personally and heard him say) that I quoted Brian here and here. The later quote still seems to be numero duo in Pagerank, not because of Brian's genial meme but because of the extremley clever trick of quoting him inside a bluff story on X#. There I too say that 'XML is Diet Cobol'.

Mariann Unterluggauer quoted Brian on 14.05.2002. She says it sounded nice but she didn't quite get what it meant that 'xml was diet cobol'. In a comment on langreiter.com 624 days ago I quoted Brian's meme in a way that I said it were under your desktop and with transformations which is only a weak indication that I thought it was XML.

Next thing, Tobi requoted deVilla because of this nice little free grafic, i suppose. I am pretty sure that Travis Grigg quotes Brian correctly: "One of the funny quotes I heard Brian say in his presentation last night: "XSLT is kind of like lisp... but with horns." He also referred to XML as Diet Cobol.".

A Google Search on Dec. 22 2005 13:45 turns out 'ungefähr 131' occurences. A click to the second page strangly reduces this figure to 'ungefähr 68' and kills the rest of the pagelinks.

With haboglabloggin' on top and tinyville in second place one could firstly say that p3k is the waxing and slauti is the waning prophet of the great Brian's dietary meme and secondly guess that Brian uses the meme in his speaking and not in his writing, because he is not in the ranking top, but:

Is Google doing geolocation weighting in Pagerank? My impression they do is getting ever stronger. It gives you the feeling of having meaning on the web, which might be a large part of their business model, meaning the model of creating the values they are paid for.

If it were not so then until OOPSLA 2005 Brian would have landed his meme with Marianne and me and maybe lots of other people who either: do not write on the web did not understand the meme or have any other reason to not spread it which I do absolutely know nothing about.

Funny then also that Tobi's question and Brians OOPSLA talk met in the spatial and temporal domain.

However that be: We here at tiny keep endorsing this meme and are also extremely happy about the 'lisp with horns' meme. Pattern research in the funny style rulez.

PS: Beware of it-no.info, it's got spyware.

A should reread

"Personal Mastery: If a system is to serve the creative spirit, it must be entirely comprehensible to a single individual."

A Dan Ingalls article on language design principles. 1981. If only for the statement above and some remarks on style.

Compiler Prices in 1983:

USCD P(ascal): US$ 350 Microsoft Pascal: US$ 300 Borland Turbo Pascal 1.0 US$ 49.95

Now who did invent comsumer pricing on System Software?